Tryon

Early Census Records

"Colonel" Robert and Andrew - Haplogroup I-Y4752

The relationship of Robert Ferguson whose will is dated 29 Oct 1794 to Andrew Ferguson who died d. Jul. 25, 1810, age 86 is unknown. George Oliver Ferguson2 says Robert Ferguson is aka Colonel Ferguson and Andrew is his son. Jane Sinclair 1.i writes that Colonel Ferguson's son Andrew moved to St. Louis after the War of 1812 and was alive as late as 1860. He is said by George Oliver Ferguson2 to be the Andrew mentioned in Robert's will and that Andrew (1724-1810) is a son by a prior marriage.

Jane Sinclair1.i says the Colonel had three sons: John born in Pennyslvania, Thomas born in North Carolina and Andrew born in North Carolina. She also says Thomas married Mary Farris (Faries3) tying into the pedigree submitted for kits 182879 and 185584 if one assumes Colonel Ferguson and Robert Ferguson are one and the same person. Said Thomas died Mar. 19, 1866, age 85 years and 8 months [ Find A Grave Memorial# 93404101 ]; his calculated year of birth is then 1780. The will of Robert Ferguson states that his youngest sons are Thomas and Andrew.

George Ferguson1.ii, says his grandfather came to America from Scotland in 1750. He lists his grandfather's sons from oldest to youngest as John, James, William, Andrew, George. Apart from a Thomas and a Robert who may have been unknown to George, these names match the sons named in the will of Andrew Ferguson written 17 Feb 1808. George's grandfather appears to be the Andrew Ferguson who died 25 Jul 1810. He also discusses his "Old Uncle Johnny Ferguson" whom he says married Polly McWilliams tying into the pedigree submitted for kit 179964.

The two trees below are consistent with the narratives by Jane Sinclair1.i and George Ferguson1.ii who would have had some first hand information on the family. That Thomas Ferguson, Esquire is shown as a son of Andrew and Mary is consistent with Andrew's will wherein he appoints his son Thomas executor and the will is signed by Thomas Ferguson Esquire. George O Ferguson states that Thomas is the oldest son of Andrew and was born in 18602.i. He also labels Thomas Ferguson (1798-1865) as "Old Uncle Tommy" whuich suggests that part of the narrative by George Ferguson1 as published circa 1947 was inadvertently left out by the editors.

According to George Ferguson1.v Andrew's son James married Mary McArthur whereas George Oliver Ferguson2.ii says it was Thomas Esquire's son James (1806-1853) who married Mary McArthur. George may have been confused if his cousin James was known to him as Uncle just as his cousin Thomas was known as "Old Uncle Tommy".

Finally every kit in the two trees is in Haplogroup I-Y4752 so no inconsistency there. It is clear that Robert and Andrew are related but the DNA cannot say how.

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Robert "Robin" Ferguson - Haplogroup I-Y4752

The father of Robert (aka Robert Robin) Ferguson is unknown. Comparison with the trees above he could be the son of Robert or Andrew as they both have a son named Robert. Given that Robin's descendants have DYS487=14 he appears to be a descendant of Andrew. In the book by Jim G (James Garland) Ferguson4.iii he is said to be a grandson of Andrew and Mary by their son William but no evidence is offered other than reference to a family tree by one Homer Ferguson4.iv. Said William Ferguson was known to George Ferguson1.ii as "Old Uncle Billy" and George's list of Uncle Billy's children does not include a Robert or a Robin. Further Old Uncle Billy is said to be a younger brother of "Old Uncle Jonny" making him born too late to be the father of Robert Robin Ferguson.

There is a William Ferguson6 with a State Grant of 200 acres on a branch of Turkey Creek registered August 23, 1774. This would indicate that he had received 100 acres for himself and 50 acres each for two dependents over age 12. Those dependents would have been born prior to about 1762 and William himself then some time prior to about 1742; in 1800 he would have been older than about 68 thus he is not the William Ferguson in the 1880 census of York, SC for that William was aged 26 thru 44.

In the biographies5 of his grandsons Garland Servier Ferguson and William Burder Ferguson, Robin is said to have emigrated from Tyrone County (Ulster) to South Carolina as a young man. Jim G Ferguson4.v says Robin was born in South Carolina which fits neither the above statement or place of birth deduced from census records4.i.c-e

The pedigrees of each kit in the tree below are based on research by Geraldine Littleton formerly of the Searcy County Library who was working to document and advance the genealogy of the library's founder Jim G Ferguson aka James Garland Ferguson, Sr [ Find A Grave Memorial# 45490297 ].

Robin's Tree

Haplotypes

The DNA of the these Ferguson falls within Branch I of I2 > M223 > Y4752 Isles/Sc - 15. The off modal marker DYS487=13 is shared by the two kits known to descend from Robert of Crowder's Creek. The off modal marker DYS534=19 is shared by two kits but it looks to be the result of two independent mutations than indication of a common ancestor within the trees. All involved are advised to upgrade to 111 markers or to an NGS test such as BigY. Kits 143992 and 206789 share CDY=31-35, DYS442=13 and DYS444=13 which triangulates back to their common ancestor Alfred F Ferguson (1838-1915).
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modal 15 24 14 10 15-16 11 13 11 13 12 29 16 8-9 11 11 26 15 20 27 11-11-14-15 11 10 19-21 14 14 19 17 30-35 12 10 11 8 15-16 8 12 10 8 10 9 0 19-21 16 11 12 12 20 9 14 25 21 10 13 11 14 11 11 12 11
182879_Ferguson 15 24 14 10 15-16 11 13 11 13 12 29 16 8-9 11 11 26 15 20 27 11-11-14-15 11 10 19-21 14 14 18 17 30-35 12 10 11 8 15-16 8 12 10 8 10 9 0 19-21 16 11 12 12 20 9 14 24 21 10 13 11 13 11 11 12 11
185584_Ferguson 15 24 14 10 15-16 11 13 11 13 12 29 16 8-9 11 11 26 15 20 27 11-11-14-15 11 10 19-21 14 14 19 17 30-35 12 10 11 8 15-16 8 12 10 8 10 9 0 19-21 16 11 12 12 20 9 14 25 21 10 13 11 13 11 11 12 11
143992_Ferguson 15 24 14 10 15-16 11 12 11 13 12 29 16 8-9 11 11 26 15 20 28 11-11-14-15 11 10 19-21 14 14 19 17 31-35 13 10 11 8 15-16 8 12 10 8 10 9 0 19-21 16 11 12 12 19 9 13 25 21 10 13 11 14 11 11 12 11
206789_Ferguson 15 24 14 10 15-16 11 13 11 13 12 29 16 8-9 11 11 26 15 20 27 11-11-14-15 11 10 19-21 14 14 19 17 31-35 13 10 11 8 15-16 8 12 10 8 10 9 0 19-21 16 11 12 12 20 9 13 25 21 10 13 11 14 11 11 12 11
201307_Ferguson 15 24 14 10 15-16 11 13 11 13 12 29 16 8-9 11 11 26 15 20 27 11-11-14-15 11 10 19-21 14 14 19 17 30-35 12 10 11 8 15-16 8 12 10 8 10 9 0 19-21 16 11 12 12 20 9 14 25 21 10 13 11 14 11 11 12 11
162472_Ferguson 15 24 14 10 15-16 11 13 11 13 12 29 16 8-9 11 11 26 15 20 27 11-11-14-15 11 10 19-21 14 14 19 17 30-35 12 10 11 8 15-16 8 12 10 8 10 9 0 19-21 16 11 12 12 20 9 14 25 21 10 13 11 14 11 11 12 11
148477_Ferguson 15 24 14 10 15-16 11 13 11 13 12 29 16 8-9 11 11 26 15 20 27 11-11-14-15 11 10 19-21 14 14 19 17 30-35 12 10 11 8 15-16 8 12 10 8 10 9 0 19-21 16 11 12 12 20 9 14 25 21 10 13 11 14 11 11 12 11
142030_Ferguson 15 24 14 10 15-16 11 13 11 13 12 29 16 8-9 11 11 26 15 20 27 11-11-14-15 11 10 19-21 14 14 19 17 30-35 12 10 11 8 15-16 8 12 10 8 10 9 0 19-21 16 11 12 12 19 9 14 25 21 10 13 11 14 11 11 12 11
179964_Ferguson 15 24 14 10 15-16 11 13 11 13 12 29 16 8-9 11 11 26 15 20 27 11-11-14-15 11 10 19-21 14 14 19 17 30-35 12 10 11 8 15-16 8 12 10 8 10 9 0 19-21 14 11 12 12 20 9 14 25 21 10 13 11 14 11 11 12 11 29 14 8 15 11 23 28 19 11 11 11 11 11 9 11 11 10 10 12 31 11 13 22 14 11 10 22 15 23 11 24 17 11 14 25 12 19 19 11 14 17 9 12 11
Distance from reference: Zero One Two Three+

Vital Records

Robert Ferguson and Sarah

Andrew Ferguson and Mary

Elizabeth Ann Falls, 2nd Wife of Thomas Ferguson, Esquire

George W Ferguson (1795-1878)

Robert Ferguson (1722-1815)

Tree as per George Oliver Ferguson 2
Robert Of Long Creek

Camden Distict

Between Broad and Catawba Rivers

Colonel William Ferguson

References

  1. History of The Family of Ferguson compiled by George, Jane Sinclair (Mrs J.G.) and Columbus Harrison Ferguson, not dated

    It is odd that Jane Sinclair writes "Col. Ferguson, who is our direct ancestor mentioned in the next manuscript, immigrated from Scotland to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, in about the year 1750. The next manuscript is that written by George Ferguson but it does not mention Col. Ferguson refering instead to his grandfather who came from Scotland in 1750. It appears she thought Col. Ferguson was George's grandfather. Someone may have edited her manuscript because the booklet would been assembled after 1947 which is the date of Columbus Harrison Ferguson's contribution. How would Jane have known about the next manuscript in the booklet?

    1. Jane C Sinclair (1845-1916) wife of James Greene Ferguson (1847-1926) [ Find A Grave Memorial # 143870075 ]. His father is Robert Andrew Ferguson (1812-1861) [Find A Grave Memorial# 37413084 ]
    2. George Ferguson (1840-1920) grandson of Andrew Ferguson (1724-1810)
    3. Columbus Harrison Ferguson (1889-1986) great-grandson of Thomas Ferguson and Mary Faries
    4. page 7
    5. page 8
  2. The Ferguson Family Tree by George Oliver Ferguson (1881-1963), written in 1959
    He is a great-great-grandson of Robert Ferguson (1722-1815)
    1. page 37
    2. page 39
  3. Daniel Troublefield, Find A Grave Memorial# 37413071, 2009
  4. The Ferguson Family History by Jim G Ferguson, Nov 1959
    1. Page 8: In the cemetery of the Crabtree Baptist Church, Crabtree township, Haywood County is a monument erected August 24, 1926 by descendants of the first family of Fergusons that came to Haywood County. The monument has the following inscription: "Robert (or Robin) Ferguson, who was also settled here prior to 1800 was also of Scotch descent, having come from Glascard and settled first in (now) Madison County, NC, and later on Rush Fork creek. He married Frances (Fannie) Love, a native of Ireland." [ The Story of James Wiley Ferguson and and Mary Elizabeth Jones Ferguson by James E Brown. Note:
      1. A photograph of that headstone is online and shows no such inscription [Find A Grave Memorial# 43761913]
      2. Fanny E Ferguson can be found in 1850 census of Haywood, Haywood County, age 78, born: Ireland Tirone Cty
      3. Son Samuel Ferguson in 1880 census of Crab Tree, Haywood County shows mother and father born in Ireland.
      4. Daughter Mary wife of Solomon Rhea in 1880 census of Crab Tree, Haywood County shows mother and father born in Ireland.
      5. Daughter Eleanor wife of R.S. White in 1880 census of Iron Duff, Haywood County shows mother and father born in Ireland.
      6. Glascard - Claim No. 300 by Michael Birford and George Lowther involved Glaƒcard in county Meath Ireland. [ A list of the claims as they are entered with the Trustees: at Chichester ... By Great Britain. Trustees for the Sale of the Forfeited Estates in Ireland, 1701, p.32].
    2. Pages 84-85: Robin (Robert) Ferguson was born near Kings Mountain South Carolina. My great grandmother, Frances Love Ferguson, came from her native Ireland at the age of twelve. After their marriage, they moved to Haywood County, North Carolina and spent the remainder of their lives there. Robert (Robin) Ferguson was born in 1764 and died February 18, 1826. Frances Love Ferguson was born in 1768 and died October 16, 1858.
    3. Page 87: William Ferguson, the son of Andrew Ferguson and Mary Fitzpatrick Ferguson, left the Old World for the New. He settled in South Carolina. The Clan Fergus was numerous in Scotland and in the North of Ireland. He married Eleanor White. To them was born a son, Robin or Robert, he was my great grandfather. This makes William Ferguson and Eleanor White Ferguson my great great grandparents.
    4. Page 88: The information pertaining to the Ferguson Family tree is found on Pages 281 to 303 The Annals of Haywood County by W.C. Allen, 1935 [ LDS Film 934858 Item 7 ] and is attributted to Homer Ferguson [ Find A Grave Memorial# 84691440 ]
    5. Page 7
  5. Centennial of Haywood County and its county seat, Waynesville, N. C.. by Allen, W. C. (William Cicero), 1859-1952. Published 1908., pp. 107-111
  6. Ferguson-L Mail list, Tracie Tudor Gross, 1999.


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